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  • NaturalMan
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    BCAA e GH ... presi prima, durante o dopo il workout?

    Tanto entusiasmo per questa nuova sezione ma nessuno posta materiale... dai ragazzi postiamo un po di articoletti interessanti

    Ecco gli articoli che risolveranno il dubbio!

    Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab 2001 Aug;281(2):E365-74

    "BCAA intake affects protein metabolism in muscle after but not during exercise in humans."

    Branched-chain amino acids (BCAA) or a placebo was given to seven subjects during 1 h of ergometer cycle exercise and a 2-h recovery period. Intake of BCAA did not influence the rate of exchange of the aromatic amino acids, tyrosine and phenylalanine, in the legs during exercise or the increase in their concentration in muscle. The increase was approximately 30% in both conditions. On the other hand, in the recovery period after exercise, a faster decrease in the muscle concentration of aromatic amino acids was found in the BCAA experiment (46% compared with 25% in the placebo condition). There was also a tendency to a smaller release (an average of 32%) of these amino acids from the legs during the 2-h recovery. The results suggest that BCAA have a protein-sparing effect during the recovery after exercise, either that protein synthesis has been stimulated and/or protein degradation has decreased, but the data during exercise are too variable to make any conclusions about the effects during exercise. The effect in the recovery period does not seem to be mediated by insulin.


    Ecco lo studio su BCAA e GH:

    Amino Acids 2001;20(1):1-11
    "Plasma lactate, GH and GH-binding protein levels in exercise following BCAA supplementation in athletes.
    De Palo EF, Gatti R, Cappellin E, Schiraldi C, De Palo CB, Spinella P
    Sezione di Biochimica Clinica, Dipartimento di Scienze Medico Diagnostiche, Universita degli Studi, Padova, Italy.

    Branched chain amino acids (BCAA) stimulate protein synthesis, and growth hormone (GH) is a mediator in this process. A pre-exercise BCAA ingestion increases muscle BCAA uptake and use. Therefore after one month of chronic BCAA treatment (0.2 gkg(-1) of body weight), the effects of a pre-exercise oral supplementation of BCAA (9.64 g) on the plasma lactate (La) were examined in triathletes, before and after 60 min of physical exercise (75% of VO2 max). The plasma levels of GH (pGH) and of growth hormone binding protein (pGHBP) were also studied. The end-exercise La of each athlete was higher than basal. Furthermore, after the chronic BCAA treatment, these end-exercise levels were lower than before this treatment (8.6+/-0.8 mmol L(-1) after vs 12.8+/-1.0 mmol L(-1) before treatment; p < 0.05 [mean +/- std. err.]). The end-exercise pGH of each athlete was higher than basal (p < 0.05). Furthermore, after the chronic treatment, this end-exercise pGH was higher (but not significantly, p = 0.08) than before this treatment (12.2+/-2.0 ng mL(-1) before vs 33.8+/-13.6 ngmL(-1) after treatment). The end-exercise pGHBP was higher than basal (p < 0.05); and after the BCAA chronic treatment, this end-exercise pGHBP was 738+/-85 pmol L(-1) before vs 1691+/-555 pmol L(-1) after. pGH/pGHBP ratio was unchanged in each athlete and between the groups, but a tendency to increase was observed at end-exercise. The lower La at the end of an intense muscular exercise may reflect an improvement of BCAA use, due to the BCAA chronic treatment. The chronic BCAA effects on pGH and pGHBP might suggest an improvement of muscle activity through protein synthesis.

    Ed un altro studio della supplementazione di BCAA post-wo:

    J Sports Med Phys Fitness 2000 Sep;40(3):240-6
    "Effects of branched-chain amino acid supplementation on serum creatine kinase and lactate dehydrogenase after prolonged exercise."
    Coombes JS, McNaughton LR

    BACKGROUND: The aim of this study was to examine the effects of branched-chain amino acid (BCAA) supplementation on serum indicators of muscle damage after prolonged exercise. We hypothesized that BCAA supplementation would reduce the serum activities of intramuscular enzymes associated with muscle damage. METHODS: To test this hypothesis, sixteen male subjects were assigned to one of two groups: the supplemental group (consuming 12 g x d(-1) BCAA for 14 d in addition to their normal diet) or the control group (normal diet only). Baseline serum creatine kinase (CK) and lactate dehydrogenase (LDH), shown to be accurate indicators of muscle damage, were determined during the week before the exercise test. The exercise test was administered on day seven and required the subjects to cycle for 120 min on an ergometer at approximately 70% VO2max. Blood samples were taken prior to and immediately following exercise and at 1 hr, 2 hrs, 3 hrs, 4 hrs, 1 d, 3 d, 5 d and 7 d postexercise. All subjects were required have their diets analyzed daily during the 14 d. RESULTS: Dietary analyses indicated that all subjects consumed the recommended daily intake of BCAA (0.64 g x kg(-1)) in their normal diets. Baseline serum values for CK and LDH were not different between groups in the 7 d prior to the test (p>0.05). However there were significant increases (p<0.05) between the pre-exercise and postexercise values for LDH and CK until 5 d postexercise test. Importantly, the BCAA supplementation significantly reduced this change in LDH from 2hrs to 5 d posttest, and CK from 4 hrs to 5 d post-test (p<0.05). CONCLUSIONS: These results indicate that supplementary BCAA decreased serum concentrations of the intramuscular enzymes CK and LDH following prolonged exercise, even when the recommended intake of BCAA was being consumed. This observation suggests that BCAA supplementation may reduce the muscle damage associated with endurance exercise.


    Insomma questi insostituibili amici integratori sono davvero preziosi!

    Bye


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    #2
    Re: BCAA e GH ... presi prima, durante o dopo il workout?

    Originally posted by NaturalMan
    Insomma questi insostituibili amici integratori sono davvero preziosi!

    P.S. per il moderatore di questa sezione che si è deciso?
    Interessantissimissimo , questa credo proprio diventerà la mia sezione preferita ! Per il moderatore, credo dovrebbe avere competenze scientifiche (magari un medico), e avere interesse notevole per la ricerca... Uhm... A te viene in mente qualcuno, NM? .
    iugi

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    • multipower
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      #3
      NaturalMan, per caso hai anche studi sull'assunzione di BCAA prima dell'allenamento con i pesi? Di Pasquale dice che la somministrazione prima dell'esercizio ridurrebbe la secrezione di Gh poiché questi alzano l'insulina... ora non ho il libro sottomano ma appena torno a casa guarfo cosa dice e ti riferisco.

      Ciao!!

      multipower

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      • Eagle
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        #4
        Originally posted by multipower
        NaturalMan, per caso hai anche studi sull'assunzione di BCAA prima dell'allenamento con i pesi? Di Pasquale dice che la somministrazione prima dell'esercizio ridurrebbe la secrezione di Gh poiché questi alzano l'insulina... ora non ho il libro sottomano ma appena torno a casa guarfo cosa dice e ti riferisco.

        Ciao!!

        multipower

        Non ho il libro di Di Pasq, ma se alzano l'insulina (e' la leucina che alza l'insulina) teoricamente dovrebbero stimolare ancor di piu' il GH.
        Io credo nelle persone, però non credo nella maggioranza delle persone. Mi sa che mi troverò sempre a mio agio e d'accordo con una minoranza.

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        • multipower
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          #5
          Originally posted by Eagle



          Non ho il libro di Di Pasq, ma se alzano l'insulina (e' la leucina che alza l'insulina) teoricamente dovrebbero stimolare ancor di piu' il GH.
          Lui scrive: "Sfortunatamente l'utilizzo di BCAA smorza la reazione del Gh durante l'allenamento e riduce la formazione di IGF-1. Mentre la riduzione di Gh e di IGF-1 potrebbe avere un'influenza catabolica, i libelli, relativamente più alti di testosterone dovrebbero eclissare questo effetto."


          Ciao!!

          multipower

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