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  • Black87
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    Originariamente Scritto da Spaino Visualizza Messaggio
    vai nella sezione arti marziali a continuare a sostenere questa tua tesi
    se ti dico che il judo è inutile dormi tranquillo?

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      Originariamente Scritto da Black87 Visualizza Messaggio
      se ti dico che il judo è inutile dormi tranquillo?
      con sto carattere ne prenderai di mazzate in strada....
      notte pischello arrogante

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      • Black87
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        Originariamente Scritto da Spaino Visualizza Messaggio
        con sto carattere ne prenderai di mazzate in strada....
        notte pischello arrogante
        eh eh ok 'notte


        ah il judo è inutile

        ora dormi bene

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        • Black87
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          Originariamente Scritto da Spaino Visualizza Messaggio
          con sto carattere ne prenderai di mazzate in strada....
          notte pischello arrogante
          kimura contro helio gracie

          In 1955, Kimura, at 38 years old, participated in a match in which he defeated Hélio Gracie of the famous Gracie Jiu Jitsu family in a submission judo match held in Brazil. During the fight, Kimura threw Gracie repeatedly with ippon-seoinage (one arm shoulder throw), osotogari (major outer sweep), and haraigoshi (sweeping hip throw). Kimura reportedly threw Gracie repeatedly in an effort to knock him unconscious. However, the floor of the fighting area was apparently too soft to allow this to happen. Kimura also inflicted painful, suffocating grappling techniques on Gracie such as kuzure-kamishiho-gatame (modified upper four corner hold), kesa-gatame (scarf hold), and sankaku-gatame (triangle choke). Finally, thirteen minutes into the bout, Kimura positioned himself to apply a reverse ude-garami (arm entanglement, a shoulderlock). Gracie refused to submit, even after his arm broke, forcing Kimura to continue the lock on Gracie's broken arm. At this point, Carlos Gracie, Helio's older brother, threw in the towel to end the match to protect his brother's health. In 1994, Helio admitted in an interview that he had in fact been choked unconscious earlier in the match, but had revived and continued fighting.
          As a tribute to Kimura's victory, the reverse ude-garami technique has since been commonly referred to as the Kimura lock, or simply the Kimura, in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and, more recently, mixed martial arts circles.






          ora dirai che pure kimura era una ****

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          • Black87
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            Kimura vs. Valdemar Santana

            Kimura went to Brazil again in 1959 to conduct his last Professional Judo/Wrestling tour. He was challenged by Valdemar Santana to a "real" (not choreographed) submission match. Santana was champion in Gracie Jiujitsu, Capoeira, and boxing. He was 27 years old, 6 feet tall, and weighed 205 lb. In 1958, Santana knocked out Hélio Gracie in a fight lasting 3 hours 45 minutes. Kimura threw Santana with seoinage, hanegoshi, and osotogari. He then applied his famous ude-garami (keylock), winning the match.
            Santana requested a rematch under vale tudo rules--the first fight was apparently grappling only--and this time, the result was a draw after 40 minutes in a bout in which both competitors reportedly drew blood.

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            • Black87
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              ovviamente si possono trovare altrettante sconfitte subite magari dal judo contro bjj

              ma non è questo il punto, il punto è non sottostimare un'arte marziale che come le altre è degna di rispetto (ed è anche molto antica), non giudicarla perchè magari si è fatto dello sparring contro un ragazzino 13 enne che faceva judo

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