Testoplex Gmbh NITRIX SUPERPUMP!LO CONOSCI?costa molto meno del nitrix dela bsn ,costa la metà dici che cè molta differenza?
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qualcuno mi spieghera' perche' dissociare la glutammina e l'arginina dalle caseine nel prenanna....
non vi siete mai chiesto da cosa sn composte le caseine?
e quanta glutammina c'e' nei fiocchi di latte ad esempio...
i pro americani ne usano 20g al giorno suddivise in dosi da 5g pre gara in forte ipocalorica cn dubble split 6-7 w.o. a settimana...voi a 70kg dopo 3 mesi di palestra ve ne sparate 30/40g al giorno...mah..Commenta
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BACKGROUND: Supplementation with glutamine and antioxidants may be associated with an improvement in clinical outcomes, but the optimal dose of these substrates is unknown. The purpose of this study was to determine the safety of high doses of glutamine combined with antioxidants in critically ill patients. METHODS: We conducted a single-center, open-label, dose-escalating clinical trial. Mechanically ventilated adult patients with clinical evidence of hypoperfusion were sequentially enrolled to 1 of 5 groups. Group 1 (n = 30): no supplementation; group 2 (n = 7): 0.35 g/kg/d of glutamine IV; group 3 (n = 7): same as group 2 plus 15 g/d of glutamine and 150 microg of selenium enterally; group 4 (n = 7): same as group 2 plus 30 g/d of glutamine and 300 microg of selenium enterally; and group 5 (n = 7): same as group 4 plus an additional 500 microg of selenium IV. After enrollment, nutrients were started as soon as possible. All patients were fed enterally according to clinical practice guidelines. RESULTS: The primary outcomes for this study were change in sequential organ function assessment (SOFA) score and safety parameters. Secondary outcomes included whole blood glutathione (GSH), thiobarbituric acid reactive substances (TBARS), and blood cells' mitochondrial DNA/nuclear DNA ratio (RATIO). There were no adverse events attributable to the study nutrients, and the maximum and Delta SOFA did not differ across groups. In group 2, a significant decrease in GSH levels was observed (p = .03). With subsequent groups, the slopes straighten out and the p values are no longer significant, suggesting a greater preservation of GSH levels with escalating doses. In group 2, the slope of the line representing TBARS was horizontal. With subsequent groups, the slopes decrease, and by group 5, this decrease reaches statistical significance (p = .03), suggesting a greater reduction in oxidative stress with the higher doses in group 5. The difference in slopes across all groups describing the mitochondrial RATIO is statistically significant (p = .001), again suggesting that, with higher doses, there is increased mitochondrial function. CONCLUSIONS: The doses of glutamine and antioxidants tested in this study seem to be safe and may have positive effects on some mechanistic endpoints. A larger trial will be necessary to confirm their therapeutic effects.
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qui certo stiamo parlando di un soggetto sano, ma come vedi la forte integrazione di glutammina(qui parla anche in associazione con anti-ossidanti) puo portare solo che a benefici, portando soprattutto ad alti dosaggi ad un incremento delle funzioni mitocondriali..e poi stiamo parlando di semplice L-GLUTA che sappiamo benissimo che l'assimilazione è diversa rispetto ad altre forme avanzate come puo essere la peptideLast edited by shernon; 19-02-2008, 10:13:19.Commenta
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amico ci vivo su quelle board...vuoi che ti posti gli studi contro...gli studi lasciano il tempo che trovano...io credo che un neofita non abbia affatto bisogno di sfondarsi l'intestino cn ste botte di glucognetici...tutto qui...Commenta
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Originariamente Scritto da dorian80 Visualizza Messaggio
se puoi potresti postarmi gli studi sull'assimilazione della monoidrata senza bisogno di insulina? non riesco a trovarla su pubmed..thx
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