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  • smi...lzo
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    acqua

    questo studio è attendibile, o presenta dei punti poco chiari secondo voi?

    Water-induced thermogenesis.

    Boschmann M, Steiniger J, Hille U, Tank J, Adams F, Sharma AM, Klaus S, Luft FC, Jordan J.

    Franz-Volhard Clinical Research Center and Helios-Klinikum-Berlin, Medical Faculty of the Charite, Humboldt-University, D-13125 Berlin, Germany.

    Drinking lots of water is commonly espoused in weight loss regimens and is regarded as healthy; however, few systematic studies address this notion. In 14 healthy, normal-weight subjects (seven men and seven women), we assessed the effect of drinking 500 ml of water on energy expenditure and substrate oxidation rates by using whole-room indirect calorimetry. The effect of water drinking on adipose tissue metabolism was assessed with the microdialysis technique. Drinking 500 ml of water increased metabolic rate by 30%. The increase occurred within 10 min and reached a maximum after 30-40 min. The total thermogenic response was about 100 kJ. About 40% of the thermogenic effect originated from warming the water from 22 to 37 C. In men, lipids mainly fueled the increase in metabolic rate. In contrast, in women carbohydrates were mainly used as the energy source. The increase in energy expenditure with water was diminished with systemic beta-adrenoreceptor blockade. Thus, drinking 2 liters of water per day would augment energy expenditure by approximately 400 kJ. Therefore, the thermogenic effect of water should be considered when estimating energy expenditure, particularly during weight loss programs.
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    dobbiamo anche tradurlo?
    "Le tigri dell'ira sono più sagge dei cavalli dell'educazione". William Blake
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      Originariamente Scritto da smi...lzo Visualizza Messaggio
      questo studio è attendibile, o presenta dei punti poco chiari secondo voi?

      Water-induced thermogenesis.

      Boschmann M, Steiniger J, Hille U, Tank J, Adams F, Sharma AM, Klaus S, Luft FC, Jordan J.

      Franz-Volhard Clinical Research Center and Helios-Klinikum-Berlin, Medical Faculty of the Charite, Humboldt-University, D-13125 Berlin, Germany.

      Drinking lots of water is commonly espoused in weight loss regimens and is regarded as healthy; however, few systematic studies address this notion. In 14 healthy, normal-weight subjects (seven men and seven women), we assessed the effect of drinking 500 ml of water on energy expenditure and substrate oxidation rates by using whole-room indirect calorimetry. The effect of water drinking on adipose tissue metabolism was assessed with the microdialysis technique. Drinking 500 ml of water increased metabolic rate by 30%. The increase occurred within 10 min and reached a maximum after 30-40 min. The total thermogenic response was about 100 kJ. About 40% of the thermogenic effect originated from warming the water from 22 to 37 C. In men, lipids mainly fueled the increase in metabolic rate. In contrast, in women carbohydrates were mainly used as the energy source. The increase in energy expenditure with water was diminished with systemic beta-adrenoreceptor blockade. Thus, drinking 2 liters of water per day would augment energy expenditure by approximately 400 kJ. Therefore, the thermogenic effect of water should be considered when estimating energy expenditure, particularly during weight loss programs.
      Interessante Smilzo!! Non conoscevo sta cosa..

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        Originariamente Scritto da smi...lzo Visualizza Messaggio
        questo studio è attendibile, o presenta dei punti poco chiari secondo voi?

        Water-induced thermogenesis.

        Boschmann M, Steiniger J, Hille U, Tank J, Adams F, Sharma AM, Klaus S, Luft FC, Jordan J.

        Franz-Volhard Clinical Research Center and Helios-Klinikum-Berlin, Medical Faculty of the Charite, Humboldt-University, D-13125 Berlin, Germany.

        Drinking lots of water is commonly espoused in weight loss regimens and is regarded as healthy; however, few systematic studies address this notion. In 14 healthy, normal-weight subjects (seven men and seven women), we assessed the effect of drinking 500 ml of water on energy expenditure and substrate oxidation rates by using whole-room indirect calorimetry. The effect of water drinking on adipose tissue metabolism was assessed with the microdialysis technique. Drinking 500 ml of water increased metabolic rate by 30%. The increase occurred within 10 min and reached a maximum after 30-40 min. The total thermogenic response was about 100 kJ. About 40% of the thermogenic effect originated from warming the water from 22 to 37 C. In men, lipids mainly fueled the increase in metabolic rate. In contrast, in women carbohydrates were mainly used as the energy source. The increase in energy expenditure with water was diminished with systemic beta-adrenoreceptor blockade. Thus, drinking 2 liters of water per day would augment energy expenditure by approximately 400 kJ. Therefore, the thermogenic effect of water should be considered when estimating energy expenditure, particularly during weight loss programs.

        stavo leggendo in questi giorni qualcosa del genere...ma frencamente alzare cosi il tasso metabolico con 500ml di acqua sembra eccessivo...ma cmq interessante

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        • smi...lzo
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          dobbiamo anche tradurlo?
          'gnurant!!

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          • smi...lzo
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            Originariamente Scritto da smi...lzo Visualizza Messaggio
            questo studio è attendibile, o presenta dei punti poco chiari secondo voi?

            Water-induced thermogenesis.

            Boschmann M, Steiniger J, Hille U, Tank J, Adams F, Sharma AM, Klaus S, Luft FC, Jordan J.

            Franz-Volhard Clinical Research Center and Helios-Klinikum-Berlin, Medical Faculty of the Charite, Humboldt-University, D-13125 Berlin, Germany.

            Drinking lots of water is commonly espoused in weight loss regimens and is regarded as healthy; however, few systematic studies address this notion. In 14 healthy, normal-weight subjects (seven men and seven women), we assessed the effect of drinking 500 ml of water on energy expenditure and substrate oxidation rates by using whole-room indirect calorimetry. The effect of water drinking on adipose tissue metabolism was assessed with the microdialysis technique. Drinking 500 ml of water increased metabolic rate by 30%. The increase occurred within 10 min and reached a maximum after 30-40 min. The total thermogenic response was about 100 kJ. About 40% of the thermogenic effect originated from warming the water from 22 to 37 C. In men, lipids mainly fueled the increase in metabolic rate. In contrast, in women carbohydrates were mainly used as the energy source. The increase in energy expenditure with water was diminished with systemic beta-adrenoreceptor blockade. Thus, drinking 2 liters of water per day would augment energy expenditure by approximately 400 kJ. Therefore, the thermogenic effect of water should be considered when estimating energy expenditure, particularly during weight loss programs.

            lo studio in sommi capi tiene sotto controllo 14 persone normopeso, in salute, e osserva l'effetto di una assunzione di 500 ml d'acqua nei soggetti sulla spesa energetica e il substrato energetico usato.
            Saltando le metodologie usate, essi ricavano che l'assunzione di 500 ml d'acqua, aumenta il ritmo metabolico del 30% raggiungendo il picco dopo 30-40 minuti. La spesa energetica totale x 500 ml sono 100 Kjouls. IL 40% DELL'ENERGIA NECESSARIA X PORTARE L'ACqUA DA 22° A TEMPERATURA CORPOREA
            negli uomini questa spesa utilizzava come substrato energetico prevalentemente il grasso, mentre nelle donne i carboidrati

            The increase in energy expenditure with water was diminished with systemic beta-adrenoreceptor blockade (qusta frase la interpreto domani che devo andare a letto)

            conclude facendo il ragiunamento he siccome la persona media beve 2 l di acqua questo porta a un dispendio energetico di 400kj, circa 100kcal al gg che dovrebbero essere considerate nel energia spasa giornaliera..



            in base a qst studio bevendo 10 l di acqua creremmo un DISPENDIO di energi di 500 kcal....che è già qualcosa, ma tornando a cose + fattibili (parlo nel mio caso) io bevo 4.5 l acqua d'estate e questo si traduce in circa 250 kcal bruciate in +
            Last edited by smi...lzo; 14-09-2006, 00:24:11.

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            • smi...lzo
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              stavo leggendo in questi giorni qualcosa del genere...ma frencamente alzare cosi il tasso metabolico con 500ml di acqua sembra eccessivo...ma cmq interessante
              infatti è quello il mio dubbio 500 ml d'acqua che mi fanno bruciare circa 25 kcal in +??se fosse così da domani arrivero su 40 l che sarebbero 2000 kcal bruciate senza fare niente..

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                beh cacchio se fosse vero avremmo risolto molti problemi dell'obesità....
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                  The increase in energy expenditure with water was diminished with systemic beta-adrenoreceptor blockade (qusta frase la interpreto domani che devo andare a letto)

                  Significa che se usi clenbuterolo questo aumento della spesa energetica diminuisce... non capisco il perchè...

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                  • max_power
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                    Che sfiga però le donne noi usiamo i grassi loro i carboidrati
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                    • Socio
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                      Da oggi comincio a sukkiare cubetti di ghiaccio...
                      Alvaro si è messo a piangere.... niente firma quindi!

                      Originariamente Scritto da Steel77
                      però quando la moderazione ti fa comodo segnali come un pazzo eh? vergognati, buffone.

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                        Che sfiga però le donne noi usiamo i grassi loro i carboidrati

                        uhauhauhauh

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                          ma ildispendio di energia varia quindi con il variare della temperatura dell'acqua ingerita?
                          se così fosse in teoria bevendo acqua ghiacciata il corpo spenderebbe più calorie per innalzarne la temperatura o no?
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                            ma ildispendio di energia varia quindi con il variare della temperatura dell'acqua ingerita?
                            se così fosse in teoria bevendo acqua ghiacciata il corpo spenderebbe più calorie per innalzarne la temperatura o no?
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                              Da oggi comincio a sukkiare cubetti di ghiaccio...
                              un bel calippo?

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