Pseudo-Sheiko durante definizione?

[Leviatano89]

in un certo senso,si. ma non si parla di roba a pompaggio/cedimento da bb o finocchiella fitness
si tratta di fare magari 20 serie di stacco da 4 colpi,ma là i cho c'entrano poco... li prendi a cavallo del wo e sei a posto

perché oggi dato che non ho ancora un programma e non sapevo che fare mi sono fatto, oltre a 15 min di corsa e 15 di bici, 5 set di panca 3,3,3,1,1.. e non l'ho "sentito".. gli anni passati facendo volumi alti tendevo a morire in palestra

[kickboxer_87]

allora,le cose sono due:

-vuoi gare da PL? perchè fare il PL vuol dire questo. obiettivo= gara, massimi kg alzati in rapporto al peso,quindi la prestazione in peso è tutto,il fisico è una conseguenza (anche se fidati che è una conseguenza perfettamente logica, "train for strenght and size will follow" si dice,e non a caso)

- bb puro, il peso non è il fine ma il mezzo, no pain no gain e quelle cazzate là.

- una via di mezzo,strada tortuosa,che può anche non portare a niente se fatta un po' alla "viva là e po' bon"... che mi pare sia quello che tu stia facendo... ci sono programmi da PL che tendono a dare spazio anche ad aspetti più da BB,soprattutto teorie americane... west-side su tutti,per esempio

scegli una strada e percorrila,se vuoi "morire in palestra" ogni volta che ci vai,allora hai la mentalità da BB,non da atleta

[Leviatano89]

allora,le cose sono due:

-vuoi gare da PL? perchè fare il PL vuol dire questo. obiettivo= gara, massimi kg alzati in rapporto al peso,quindi la prestazione in peso è tutto,il fisico è una conseguenza (anche se fidati che è una conseguenza perfettamente logica, "train for strenght and size will follow" si dice,e non a caso)

- bb puro, il peso non è il fine ma il mezzo, no pain no gain e quelle cazzate là.

- una via di mezzo,strada tortuosa,che può anche non portare a niente se fatta un po' alla "viva là e po' bon"... che mi pare sia quello che tu stia facendo... ci sono programmi da PL che tendono a dare spazio anche ad aspetti più da BB,soprattutto teorie americane... west-side su tutti,per esempio

scegli una strada e percorrila,se vuoi "morire in palestra" ogni volta che ci vai,allora hai la mentalità da BB,non da atleta

ho fatto la via di mezzo per questo periodo.. ora per via di uno pseudo problema alla spalla sono tornato al BB, e appunto vorrei perdere un bel pò di peso cercando di mantenere la forza, poi verso settembre riprendere PL..
hai qualche teoria americana in particolare da consigliarmi?

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You may or may not be a mystery reader. Regardless, you've probably heard of the greatest sleuth of all time,
Sherlock Holmes. Unfortunately, Holmes had a little habit that, today, would likely have qualified him as a
Jeopardy answer in the category, "Guys Who Have Bunked With Dan Duchaine in Prison." You see, Holmes was an
opium addict, and he was partial to a very precise mixture which he called the seven percent solution.
Well, I too have my own version of the seven percent solution, only it has nothing to do with illegal opiates.
Instead, it has to do with rep schemes. I call it my Five Percent Solution. Let me elaborate.
There are a lot of effective rep schemes, but the fact is, they're only as good as the time it takes you to adapt
to them. For beginners, a particular workout, coupled with a particular rep scheme, might guarantee progress for
4 to 6 weeks. After that, they'd be performing the exercise equivalent of getting stuck in a revolving door.
Advanced athletes, on the other hand, might have to change their programs every week. Some even have to change
their program every single workout!
Although some experts promise a lifetime of continuous results from doing the same routine day after day, ad nauseum,
it's a cruel lie. Not only will your body adapt, but you'll probably quit because you'd be bored silly. For instance,
one infamous trainer exhibits a fanatical obsession with one training method—his—to the exclusion of all others.
His system requires only a fraction of the time required by most other programs, but it's difficult to do it for more
than a few weeks because it requires that the trainee be either mentally disturbed or addicted to amphetamines in order
to keep up the degree of effort required.
I recommend variety, of course, but there are some set-rep schemes that I tend to favor over others. I like them because
they're mentally stimulating and physically challenging. Moreover, I like them because they're effective. One in particular
is the aforementioned Five Percent Solution. It's effective regardless of where you are in the bodybuilding hierarchy.
You can be a rank beginner, or master of the universe. In short, it gets your heart rate going and your muscles growing.

A Closer Look...
The Five Percent Solution involves a set pattern of progression. In a nutshell, you'll increase the amount of resistance
by 4 to 5% each workout, while simultaneously reducing the number of reps by one each time. After you recover from the
sixth workout, you'll have increased your strength in each lift by approximately 10%!
People in the know in the field of strength training realize that the number of reps is the loading parameter to which
an individual adapts the fastest, and the Five Percent Solution takes advantage of this fact. I'm sure people like Tony
Little have no idea what I'm talking about, but no matter. The Five Percent Solution is based on the principle,
"success breeds success".
Whenever people achieve goals, whether it's in business or athletics, testosterone levels rise. When T levels rise,
your recovery ability improves. And, because you recover more quickly, you make more gains. Because you have more gains,
you have more success and you make more testosterone, and so on and so on.
Before I give examples of the workout, let's talk about the loading parameters of the Five Percent Solution.
The Intensity Zone
Select a 3-rep bracket to start the cycle. The number of reps should fall between 3 and 8. For instance, choose to do
sets of 3-5 reps, 4-6 reps, 5-7 reps, or 6-8 reps. The decision is somewhat arbitrary; just make sure you write down
the rep bracket you selected and stick with if for the duration of the program.

Tempo
The tempo (the time it takes you to complete one rep) should be the same throughout the 6 workouts of the phase.
Depending on your goal, the total time under tension per set determines the chosen tempo. For example, if mass is
your goal, the set should last at least 40 seconds. If relative strength is the desired goal, the total length of
the set shouldn't exceed 20 seconds.
Let's say the rep bracket you selected is 4 to 6 reps and your goal is to build mass. That means that it should take
at least 40 seconds to do your 4 to 6 reps. Therefore, a suitable tempo for a set of six might be 412, where 4 is the
number of seconds it takes to lower the weight; 1 is the number of seconds you pause; and 2 is the number of seconds
it takes to raise the weight. Therefore, each rep would take about 7 seconds and since you'd be doing 6 reps, 6x7
equals 42. That means your total time under tension would be 42 seconds for that particular set.

Rest Interval
In order to allow the phosphagens to replenish and give the central nervous system enough time to recover and be able to activate the high-threshold fibers again, you need to rest 3 to 4 minutes between sets.
It may be difficult for many of you to take that much rest, but believe me, your discipline will pay big dividends in the long run. In fact, failure to take adequate rest between sets will negate the positive effects of this program. I recommend using a stopwatch that beeps after the rest interval is over. As a note, strength athletes generally rest between 4 and 5 minutes after sets of the Power Clean or other Olympic lifts. The technical element of these lifts is much greater than that of conventional lifts; thus the demands on the nervous system are much greater.

Number of Exercises
I don't recommend doing more than 1 to 2 exercises per body part because you'll be doing a high number of total sets. Of course, the odd genetic freak or the steroid assisted athlete might be able to handle 3 exercises.

Exercise Selection
I recommend that you select compound exercises that recruit a lot of muscle mass. Therefore, exercises like rows, squats, deadlifts, or presses are the best choices for this method. Hopefully, you can use at least 100 pounds in a given exercise because it makes the math easier. It also makes it easier to change the weight since 1 1/4 pound plates are a rarity. Of course if your strength levels are low, you can always use PlateMates or Record Disks to meet the 4 to 5% weight increase.

Frequency
Work every body part once every 4 to 5 days. Here's one possible split:
Day 1: Chest and Back
Day 2: Legs and Abs
Day 3: Off
Day 4: Shoulders and Arms
Day 5: Off

Duration
This program is designed to be used for 6 workouts per body part.

Overload Mechanism
Do your initial workouts with the chosen number of reps and the predetermined weight. You'll then increase the load by 4 to 5% every workout for two workouts in a row. Concurrently, you'll also reduce the target reps by one rep for every weight increase. Then, after the third workout, you'll reduce the weight 4 to 5% but bring the number of reps back to the original starting point. If you've done this correctly, you'll have increased your strength by 5%.
If you're confused, I don't blame you, so let me offer an example:

The Five Percent Solution
Let's say you have a weak brachialis muscle and you want to improve your reverse curl strength. And, for the sake of this example, we'll say your best performance for the reverse curl is 100 pounds for 7 reps. This is what your rep/set cycle would look like:
Workout 1:
4-5 sets x 7 reps at 100 pounds
Workout 2:
Increase the weight from the last workout by 4-5 percent and do 1 rep less per set: 4-5 sets x 6 reps at 105 pounds
Workout 3:
Increase the weight from the last workout by 4-5 percent and do 1 rep less per set: 4-5 sets x 5 reps at 110 pounds
Workout 4:
Use the load you used in workout #2 for the workout #1 rep target. In this case, you're shooting for: 4-5 sets x 7 reps at 105 pounds
NOTE: If you achieve your goal, it means you're already 5% stronger!
Workout 5:
Use the load used in workout #3 for the workout #2 rep target: 4-5 sets x 6 reps at 110 pounds
Workout 6:
Increase the weight from the last workout by 4-5 percent and do 1 rep less per set: 4-5 sets x 5 reps at 115 pounds
By logical extension, if you did workout 7, you'd now be able to do 7 RM (repetitions maximum) with 110 pounds! That's a 10% percent increase in strength over 6 workouts, and that's excellent! (I don't actually map out the seventh workout because it would just be an exercise in vanity-the nervous system typically adapts to any workout program in 6 workouts and after that, it's time to move on to another type of program.)
Obviously, because of neuromuscular fatigue, you won't be able to achieve your rep target every set, but as long as you hit your goal on the first set of every workout, you're doing fine.

The Five Percent Solution Applied to Squats
Biomechanists have determined that when you do a squat, you're in fact squatting 75% of your bodyweight, plus the load on the barbell (Although it seems like you're squatting all of your bodyweight, you're not. After all, the legs are lifting the upper body; they're not lifting themselves off the ground). Keep that in mind when you adjust your squat poundages up by 5%. For instance, let's say you weigh 200 pounds and you're squatting 350 pounds for 5 reps. When increasing the weight five percent from workout to workout, the load increases would look like this:
Weight increase: 5% (load of barbell + (75% x bodyweight))
Weight increase: 5% (350 pounds + (75% x 200 pounds))
Weight increase: 5% (350 pounds + 150 pounds)
Weight increase: 25 pounds
So, in this particular case, a 5% increase would bring our hypothetical 200-pound bodybuilder's load to 375 pounds for his sets of 4 in his next workout.

Tips for the Five Percent Solution
In order to perform this program properly, I strongly urge you to keep a detailed journal of the exact number of sets and reps performed, load used, and rest interval taken. Furthermore, only count the reps done in strict form. Go ahead and do forced reps for the last rep of every third workout, but don't count them as complete reps.

Wrap Up
I hope that the Five Percent Solution isn't too confusing. I think that you'll find it well-worth all the head scratches and furrowed brows it took to figure it out, though. If enough of you find that you like it, let me know and I'll fill you in on the Advanced Five Percent Solution.
In any event, if there's such a thing as one singly unifying theory of training as Mike Mentzer claims, it's that the best system is the one that constantly changes. As your body adapts, it's recovery ability increases and higher levels of volume and intensity of training are needed to ensure further growth.

Spero che tu abbia qualche nozione di inglese

ps:lascia perdere la parte in cui dice che nello squat bisogna calcolare anche una % del peso corporeo,sono tutte cazzate

[Leviatano89]

Spero che tu abbia qualche nozione di inglese

ps:lascia perdere la parte in cui dice che nello squat bisogna calcolare anche una % del peso corporeo,sono tutte cazzate

ora mi ci metto d'impegno

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ps: ho visto le foto. direi che un 3-4 mesi di dieta seria li devi fare

[Leviatano89]

ps: ho visto le foto. direi che un 3-4 mesi di dieta seria li devi fare

da qui il modo di fare forza durante definizione

[kickboxer_87]

allenati come sempre,da PL,e taglia le kcal. metti un po' d'aerobica e via. non serve altro.